The Podcast Bringing Ethics to Life
A production of PAN Works
If you like smart, humane conversations that don’t dodge difficult issues, PAN Thinks is for you.
We unpack the ideas and arguments behind today’s hardest animal issues with careful reasoning, compassion, expert insight, and practical takeaways. Integrating ethics with science and policy, we explore “how we ought to live” in a more than human world where imals matter. Expect lively conversations that challenges conventional wisdom and gives you fresh insight into the place of animals in our lives.

If you like smart, humane conversations that don’t dodge difficult issues, PAN Thinks is for you.
We unpack the ideas and arguments behind today’s hardest animal issues with careful reasoning, compassion, expert insight, and practical takeaways. Integrating ethics with science and policy, we explore “how we ought to live” in a more than human world where animals matter. Expect lively conversations that challenges conventional wisdom and gives you fresh insight into the place of animals in our lives.
PAN Thinks is a production of PAN Works, a centre for ethics, science and policy dedicated to animal wellbeing.
Human expansionism — both through the growth in our consumption and population — is the leading driver of cascading ecological and social crises. Animal exploitation, in the form of accelerating rates of species extinction, diminishment of wildlife populations, and rapid growth of factory farms, tracks with the growth of the human footprint. However, there is widespread dismissal of the role of population in these crises among journalists, academics, environmental organizations, and policymakers. In this talk, Nandita will discuss the factors behind the silencing of this discourse, namely the growth-biased socio-economic systems, past population policies, pronatalism, and human supremacy. She will explain the harmful implications of population denial on the most vulnerable people, nonhumans, and ecosystems, how the powerful institutions of the state, the church, the military, and the economy perpetuate and benefit from this denial, and why we must urgently move past it.
HOSTS & GUESTS
Nandita Bajaj, MEd, is the Executive Director of Population Balance. Population Balance is a US nonprofit that works to inspire narrative, behavioural, and system change that shrinks our human impact and elevates the rights and wellbeing of people, animals, and the planet. https://www.populationbalance.org/
William S. Lynn, PhD (Bill) is President and founder of PAN Works and host of the PAN Thinks podcast. https://panworks.io/team/name/william-lynn/
Production is by Gary Sheer. https://garysheerphotography.com/
Recorded on 3 October 2024.
Episode art by Michael Starkie on Unsplash. https://unsplash.com/photos/a-monkey-sitting-on-top-of-a-brick-wall-next-to-a-building-dGeQmCNsrsg
FROM THIS EPISODE
Catton, W. R. (1982). Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change. University of Chicago Press.
Cafaro, P., & Crist, E. (2012). Life on the Brink: Environmentalists Confront Overpopulation. University of Georgia Press.
Carroll, L. (2012). The Baby Matrix. LiveTrue Books.
Crist, E. (2019). Abundant Earth: Toward an Ecological Civilization. University of Georgia Press.
Wackernagel, M., & Rees, W. (1996). Our Ecological Footprint: Reducing Human Impact on the Earth. New Society Publishers.
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