The Podcast Bringing Ethics to Life
A production of PAN Works
If you like smart, humane conversations that don’t dodge difficult issues, PAN Thinks is for you.
We unpack the ideas and arguments behind today’s hardest animal issues with careful reasoning, compassion, expert insight, and practical takeaways. Integrating ethics with science and policy, we explore “how we ought to live” in a more than human world where imals matter. Expect lively conversations that challenges conventional wisdom and gives you fresh insight into the place of animals in our lives.
If you like smart, humane conversations that don’t dodge difficult issues, PAN Thinks is for you.
We unpack the ideas and arguments behind today’s hardest animal issues with careful reasoning, compassion, expert insight, and practical takeaways. Integrating ethics with science and policy, we explore “how we ought to live” in a more than human world where animals matter. Expect lively conversations that challenges conventional wisdom and gives you fresh insight into the place of animals in our lives.
PAN Thinks is a production of PAN Works, a centre for ethics, science and policy dedicated to animal wellbeing.
The Tree Kangaroo Conservation Program was founded at the Woodland Park Zoo (Seattle, WA, USA) in 1996. It began as the first wild study of the endangered Matschie’s tree kangaroo in Papua New Guinea and grew into a community conservation, development, and health effort. It now protects roughly 180,000 acres of cloud forest in the YUS Conservation Area while supporting the 15,000-plus people who live there. Framed in terms of the ethics and science of one health, the program recognizes that people depend directly on the forest, so human, animal, and environmental health are inseparable.
This series on One Health Ethics is co-hosted with the Society for Conservation Biology North America. https://scbnorthamerica.org/index.php/event/policy-ethics-webinar-historical-and-practical-considerations-for-one-health-projects/
HOSTS & GUESTS
Lisa Dabek, PhD, is Senior Conservation Scientist at Seattle’s Woodland Park Zoo and is the Founder and Senior Director of the community-based Tree Kangaroo Conservation Program (TKCP) in Papua New Guinea (PNG).
Rob Liddell, MD is a physician at University of Washington’s Center for One Health Research, and affiliate associate professor in theDepartment of Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences, School of Public Health.
William S. Lynn, PhD (Bill) is President and founder of PAN Works and host of the PAN Thinks podcast. https://panworks.io/team/name/william-lynn/
Production is by Gary Sheer. https://garysheerphotography.com/
Recorded on 24 June 2026.
Episode art by Alex Gisby on UnSplash. https://unsplash.com/photos/a-tree-dwelling-kangaroo-rests-on-a-branch-lOOQ9z2IZjk
FROM THIS EPISODE
Dabek, L., Valentine, P., Blessington, J., & Schwartz, K. R. (Eds.). (2020). Tree kangaroos: Science and conservation. Academic Press.
Liddell, R. M., & Transue, E. R. (2020). Using a one health model: Healthy village healthy forest. In L. Dabek, P. Valentine, J. Blessington, & K. R. Schwartz (Eds.), Tree kangaroos: Science and conservation. Academic Press.
Liddell, R. M., Transue, E. R., … Dabek, L. (2020). Creating the first conservation area in Papua New Guinea to protect tree kangaroos. In L. Dabek, P. Valentine, J. Blessington, & K. R. Schwartz (Eds.), Tree kangaroos: Science and conservation. Academic Press.
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